Welcome the newest member to the Steroid HoF

Welcome A-Rod. You join a long and infamous list of people that "Don't want to talk about the past." Kinda scary how he told Gammons that the reports of his steroid use from 2001-2003 was "mostly accurate." Would you care to elaborate on that Alex?

That's just wrong. He didn't know the stuff was bad.

Brandon wrote:That's just wrong. He didn't know the stuff was bad.

I like that he didn't know exactly what he put in his body. Wow so you're telling me you just grabbed the needle and jabbed it in there without knowing what it was for 3 or more years? These guys take so much care of their bodies there is no way they just swallow a pill without knowing exactly what it is.

Thing about the title of the thread, is that it's actually kinda telling. Think about the names implicated. You're actually talking a LOT of HOF'ers.

Bonds, Clemens, Rodrigues, McGwire, Palmeiro,

I'm sure I'm missing some. I'm fairly certain Schilling's mouth is on steroids too.

techierick wrote:Thing about the title of the thread, is that it's actually kinda telling. Think about the names implicated. You're actually talking a LOT of HOF'ers.

Bonds, Clemens, Rodrigues, McGwire, Palmeiro,

I'm sure I'm missing some. I'm fairly certain Schilling's mouth is on steroids too.

Yeah and I would say at least 3 or 4 of the above mentioned would've been HoFers without the roids. That's the thing that really sucks about it. These guys were talented especially Bonds and Clemens and A-Rod. I think if A-Rod can stay clean and nothing comes out that he was shooting up the majority of his time with the Yankees then he'll probably make the HoF. He's just got a ways to go to regain the trust of everyone again.

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Looks like A-Rod bought the U's new baseball stadium. He never played there but used to go as a kid. I remember my high school team made the state final 4 back in 1994 I think and Miami Westminster was one of the teams. A-Rod was playing for them back then but we ended up playing another team that beat us like 7-1 I think. Ed you probably remember Stephen Jackson, he was pitching against them. Anyways we lost and that team ended up playing Miami Westminster and getting beat. A-Rod was already being hyped like crazy back then even. What a waste....at least he still has Madonna.

id rather have the pre-Penn Madonna.. that gap in her teeth really scares me..

dre wrote:id rather have the pre-Penn Madonna.. that gap in her teeth really scares me..

Yeah she's a "cougar" to steal a word from Jim Rome lol.

The A-Rod press conference should be interesting today. Hopefully he'll be honest but I can see him avoid a lot of questions or give half answers most likely. This one could go a long way in repairing his image or either impacting it negatively so his publicity handlers better give him some good advice. Scott Boras wants a contract extension for him probably.

He apparently is going to have several of his teammates there with him including including Pettitte. I bet he says exactly what he said in the interview and plays the sympathy card. His teammates will echo they stand behind Alex and what a hard worker he is....ESPN will have no new info off this, and the scene will then quickly shift back to the Yankee bullpen where there is no one to get the ball to Rivera. I did like how Ortiz said players should receive a year now. Man, I bet Torre is happy....don't hear too much about his book after this story broke. Wonder if Arod ever had Madonna inject him hahaha

i'm fairly sure someone was injecting him... in the same way Robby Alomar got injected after that game when he was young.

techierick wrote:i'm fairly sure someone was injecting him... in the same way Robby Alomar got injected after that game when he was young.

Yeah I agree with Ortiz on a one year ban. Some people want to take it even further and say lifetime ban on the first offense. I lean more towards the 1 year ban and then expulsion from the league if they're caught again. I think that would be a good enough deterrent especially once someone is made an example of.

I think whats also halarious is Canseco has still been juicing. Man that dude is amazing if he doesn't get cancer or some weird problem soon. He has been going at it hard for 20 years. Jose, the career has been over awhile buddy...let it go.

Alex Rodriguez offered new details Tuesday about his performance-enhancing drug use, saying his cousin injected him with an over-the-counter substance to gain an energy boost.

The New York Yankees star said using the banned drug that he said he obtained from the Dominican Republic was a “stupid mistake.”


I wonder what percentage of Dominicans were juicing. Id say between 50-75% but closer to 75. They are still even getting caught now.

ed moyer wrote:Alex Rodriguez offered new details Tuesday about his performance-enhancing drug use, saying his cousin injected him with an over-the-counter substance to gain an energy boost.

The New York Yankees star said using the banned drug that he said he obtained from the Dominican Republic was a “stupid mistake.”


I wonder what percentage of Dominicans were juicing. Id say between 50-75% but closer to 75. They are still even getting caught now.

After Ortiz's comments makes you wonder if he ever tried the stuff, especially with it being so rampant in some of those island countries. Canseco's balls are probably non-existent right now.

MLB has more questions for A-Rod


This isn't going away for A-Rod anytime soon. I'm really curious to see how well he does this season. If it was Bonds he would just keep smashing shots into McCovey, he seemed to always be able to get through the scrutiny and just keep mashing. But A-Rod doesn't seem to be able to handle the pressure as well as Bonds. I'm gonna say .280, 30 HRs, 97 RBIs. Not a bad season but not typical A-Rod either.

uh oh.. reports say that the stuff arod was using wasnt even available with a presription in the DR during the time he said he was using.. that hole is getting deeper and deeper.. and that little spec of light at the bottom of the tunnel is the light on clemens' mining helmet.. why dont these guys get a clue and just come clean.. it tends to help their cause, a la giambi/pettitte..

dre wrote:uh oh.. reports say that the stuff arod was using wasnt even available with a presription in the DR during the time he said he was using.. that hole is getting deeper and deeper.. and that little spec of light at the bottom of the tunnel is the light on clemens' mining helmet.. why dont these guys get a clue and just come clean.. it tends to help their cause, a la giambi/pettitte..

Yeah although I don't really think pettitte was fully forthcoming was he? Didn't he say he used it once and then it comes out that his dad used to and he had used it again with him? Then in Giambi's case he apologized but couldn't say what he was apologizing for and he didn't go into any details either. Don't get me wrong i'm glad Giambi and Pettitte were somewhat honest but they haven't been exactly telling all either. A-Rod is gonna have the magnifying class on him amped times a million like Bonds did just because of who he is. But I agree, all of these guys just need to tell the whole truth. We're tired of the games.

What pot of gold at the end of the rainbow do you think Bonds has for Greg Anderson? Man, he is headed back to the slammer again for refusing to testify..Bonds sure must have gauranteed a nice retirement package.

ed moyer wrote:What pot of gold at the end of the rainbow do you think Bonds has for Greg Anderson? Man, he is headed back to the slammer again for refusing to testify..Bonds sure must have gauranteed a nice retirement package.

Yeah I was reading Dan Wetzel's article on Yahoo Sports yesterday. Really blows your mind how loyal this guy is. I mean you know he could cut a deal anytime if he wanted too. Bonds must be promising him some serious cash for staying silent. My guess is his lawyers have told him that he's not gonna get a ton of years even if they bring something down on him. I'm almost to a point where it's just like...let it go. Bonds' name is in the dirt now anyways. His reputation cannot be saved at this point in the baseball world. To players like Bonds their recognition is everything and his numbers are as tainted as it gets. Probably not doing anything more than wasting tax dollars at this point. What do you guys think? Keep prosecuting? Do you want to see Bonds go down or just let this go and keep it at his baseball rep being ruined?

At this point its gone on so long I don't think there is a choice. Just my opinion. They are gunning for Roger also. I'm pretty sure they will both go down. The feds refuse to let this go. Man if Roger would have just confessed to some HGH or something...I mean even his wife was doing it haha...cmon man just own it. Even Pete Rose thinks these lies have gone on too long!

I could really care less about the bonds daytime drama series that this has turned into.. id much rather see him in a uni swingin a bat than in a suit in a courthouse.. i bet you that man can still rake with the best of em.. i mean if garrett anderson can get a contract.... on another note.. good piece on Tiny Tim on espn today.. that kid is going to be an all-time great..

what a bargain for 650k!!

Ever read this?

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2008/05/19/hank-aaron-warns-against-unrewarding-shortcuts/

wow. the most Hank has said regarding this ever. nice.